If pitbulls aren't dangerous by nature, why did a 5 month old PUPPY do this to me? Full story in the comments.
Bitten and BruisedDon't mess around with the possibility of rabies.
Exactly.
OP you might not know this, but any suspicion of rabies and the dog has to be quarantined for 10 days for observation. You need to call animal control, and demand they quarantine the dog. If they him haw or say no, tell them you'll call the county health department. If they still say no, call the county health department.
Be ready for pushback from animal control. Don't give an inch. Tell them you're scared and you want to know if you contracted it or not so you can start treatment. If they say, "The dog was vaccinated" tell them while rare, you read that even vaccinated dogs can still be carriers and you need to know. If they still push, use the public health department threat.
I'm just really tired of reading about these public services we pay to exist through taxes, not protecting us. Demand it OP.
This is not normal puppy behavior. This is not nipping. This is aggression.
I'm a vet.
I saw a 3 month old pit puppy for vaccinations, and he was FULL of scars caused by teeth of his brothers and sisters. The owner actually thought it was some disease.
Never have I seen anything remotely similar on puppies of other breeds.
They start young.
I'm not sure how well it would work on a pit, but invest in a bear spray.
Just normal puppy behaviour, uggh: https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/p9wj0r/pitbull_puppies_kill_and_proceed_to_eat_their/
We often see posts here describing vets who defend pits and protect their owners by providing false documents saying that they are a different breed, so that the owners can lease apartments and so forth. Apparently many have bought into the idea that it isn't the dog, it is the owner. Is that the prevailing attitude among your colleagues? Are there many vets like you who acknowledge that there are problems with a breed developed for aggression?
Vets are just people, like everyone else. Tons of different opinions.
I don't understand how someone can get through biology and animal breeding courses and then ignore everything they've learned, but there you go.
There's not much discussion about pits on vet groups/forums, I guess because normal people don't want to push the issue with rabid pit defenders, and pit defenders don't want to do it either because they know that scientifically they don't have ground to stand on. A few of the discussions that I saw devolved in exactly the same way as you would expect with anyone else and soon got deleted by the admins.
vets who defend pits and protect their owners by providing false documents saying that they are a different breed
I would hold those dishonest vets legally liable for the damage the dog causes. I bet that would put a fast stop to that behaviour.
Thank you for your reply. I agree with the legal implications (and think that is the only way out) but apparently we are in the minority. Young vets I know are firm believers that it is the owner, not the dog-this dogma also dominates the Humane Society and the rescue community and dog show officials so it is well-entrenched and feels insurmountable.
It kinda depends. I'm in the end of my vet graduation and out of my vet friends, only 1 was actively defending pits. I usually go with a no bullshit stance with clients and demand aggressive breeds to be muzzled at the very least for treatment, and some of my friends are similar.
I'm so sorry this happened to you and I'm so sorry you have to go through the rabies shots yet again;( I heard they're definitely not fun.
This has all gotten so out of hand.. I hope we someday no longer have to fear for our lives and our pets lives while just taking them out for a walk, or hell they even break into homes to maul!
great job protecting your pup & hang in there OP, best wishes for a easy and speedy recovery ♡
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I don't get it. Let the breed out of it for a moment, but every dog (pet) that mauls another living being human, dog, livestock to death or injures them badly, it should be BE. And the owner should be sued to the moon. Why can't the government do something like this? It's so simple. Dog mauls, owner (if not on a pit and run again) gets sued and jailtime, mauler dog gets BE.
If such a law would be for every dog, pit advocates can't cry rAcISm. And hopefully the number of dangerous dog shrinks. If it's not the breed, poor "lab mix" then clearly it's the owners fault, like they love to say.
we would definitely have waaaay less people owning dangerous dogs that's definitely for sure. I believe they probably don't because number one backlash, and yes from the pit lobby because they know their breed is the most dangerous they just pretend they don't know or some are willfully blind about it, and number two, pit lobby rakes in a lot of money.
sad truth is... money talks ;(
edited: added some clarification
I have been seeing people speaking out too as well lately before people like us would stay quiet wondering if all the NPC pit comments were seriously what everyone was thinking or not (and of course other reasons I don't wanna give them ammo for) but now it seems people are so freaking fed up we can't take it anymore.
it is very nice to see that we do have sane people speaking up though. in some posts lately I actually see the majority of comments being the sane group. So I suppose we'll see but it is wishful thinking regarding the fact these dogs are literally banned in some countries yet they keep mauling there too 🙄
the only way to really fix this I feel is if we just somehow collectively woke up one day and all became in favor of letting these dogs fade out.
I'm so sorry 😞 Looks very swollen & painful
It is very painful. I wish these dogs didn't exist.
Same here, sister.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. The owner never stepped forward to retrieve their animal either? It may not be chipped.
Regardless, that kind of aggression cannot be fixed through training. It will only get worse as the animal matures
Please keep us posted
The owner probably doesn't give a shit. I've seen it happen too many times. They were around when it attacked. I guess we'll see if they come forward but they may not even know where the dog is, considering the nearest shelter is about an hour from where I live.
What quick thinking on your part! Please be sure to complain to local governance and all levels above, and inquire about the policies to protect the public. We need municipalities to pay attention and consider liabilities
There are policies but we don't have an animal control where I live. There isn't nearly enough funding, so unless a dog actually bites someone nothing is done, even if it's sitting there snarling and chasing children.
The silver lining I guess is that also means you're less likely to get harassed by the law if you are forced to defend yourself against a pitbull attack?
Most likely yes, unless the owners throw a bitch fit.
Just policies? No criminal laws? You know your area best. We only get some of what we demand, and nothing that we do not
If they are laws, they certainly aren't enforced. There are many dogs who roam the streets, enough so that they're often known by names. There is a lab that always hangs out at the public park and by the only store in the entire town, begging people to play fetch with rocks. I don't mind her as much because she doesn't cause problems like the pits do.
They don’t come forward because they don’t want to pay your 300 dollar bill, or any other bills that their demented dogs inflict on innocent beings.
Surely you gave it the wrong vibe, pibbles are known for their intelligence and rich inner lives.
Sorry this happened to you, a lot of pain would be avoided if people just didn't get breeds that are aggressive since they open their eyes.
"Rich inner lives" is killing me... like they would all be applying to the Iowa Writers' Workshop if only they had thumbs. Poor misunderstood geniuses, basically the Kurt Cobains of dogs.
The “pibble people” will probably let you know that your chihuahua is the one who instigated this by being a breed much more dangerous than a precious angelic pitbull (since they actually think this.) The pibble totally sensed your chihuahua was planning an attack so it came to try and save you but ended up getting too excited and wanting to play so accidentally started to maul you!
And yea, pit owners will also say ANYTHING they can think of to blame the victim whether it is what you’re wearing, your hair color, a sound you made, etc. A pit is always innocent and allowed to be triggered into murder by every day existing.
I am so sorry you had to experience this and I hope that it is figured out who this horrible animal belongs to. They should NOT get away with this and the dog should be taken away and they should be responsible for all the medical care. Make sure to keep photos, doctor/hospital documents, etc. and if possible if you see the pit out again, get a picture of it.
should’ve thought twice about having red hair
for real though, sorry you went through this
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It’s not even a funny joke anymore
We really need to come up with a new joke for gingers
On the other hand, I just got an offer to write for the babylon bee
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Sad I’m sorry this happened to you these dogs are violent from birth pretty much and so many people including you suffer the consequences of these dogs being bred in bulk.
Christ, I’m sorry you went through that, and that you’re going to have to get those shots. I take it the animal escaped, since it cannot be tested?
Posits a nasty calculation I wouldn’t want to have to make: if a pit bites you, and it is small enough for you to destroy, is it more important to destroy it so it can be autopsied for rabies, or does the fact that you’d be destroying it in a likely inhumane way require you to let it go and accept a rabies shot program?
I’d say you’re lucky to be part of the small population that has rabies vaccination, but… this happened to you before, which prompted vaccination? Yikes.
I don't get to decide what happens to the dog. Yes this has happened before and I had to get rabies shots.
It's very common in my area for people to just let their dogs roam without a care in the world. It's almost as if half of them don't know what a leash is, even when they own the world's most dangerous breed.
I don't think this is an escaped dog. I believe the owners let it out on purpose.
Call your local Health Dept and ask if they will euthanize and check it. The rabies vaccine is a fabulous vaccine, but it’s not 100% and rabies is 100% fatal. It’d be good for it to be checked so alert can be made to the public so if anyone or any animal was attacked before you they’d know. Saying this if AC caught the dog.
Well, if this happened in my area, you’re right about you not getting to decide. They’d take it and sample its brain tissue for rabies to make sure you weren’t infected.
as much as I hate to say it, but you might want to start carrying a firearm as a self-defense measure, also does your state have stand your ground laws if so see if they cover dangerous dogs.
A firearm might be too much, a good pocket knife will do
I disagree. A pocket knife will allow a pit bull much too close for my liking. A firearm of a large caliber will dispatch them before they get too close.
Can you not arm yourself? Are you not in the US?
I can but my options are limited as I don't have much money to drop on a good legal weapon.
$300 can go toward many decent options if you manage to save up that much after this incident. Or if you're able to get reimbursed by the owners after you find them.
Just think of it as potential insurance against the next attack.
I’m so sorry. I had to shoot a pit to defend myself today.
One less monstrosity to terrorize the world.
Maybe a long shot but perhaps there's security cameras in the park or some nearby houses have ring cameras? Maybe post it on next door and local Facebook groups to find the owner and the dog.
I've already posted it on Facebook. Nobody is fessing up which is exactly what happened last time I was attacked.
Oh my gosh I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine how scary that was… I’m glad you and your dog made it out okay, given how much worse it could’ve gone :-(
Sorry this happened to you, and a only 5 months old pitbull nevertheless!! You can never relax around these dogs, I know how you might feel, I have a female Yorkshire myself and sometimes enormous dogs just blast towards her but the pitbull are the scariest because the owners almost never do anything to help and just watch as their little cupcake tries to maul you.
Hope you get better and never have to experience this again girl, take much care 😥
When I was 11 or 12, my brother brought a pitbull puppy from the neighbor's house to try and convince mom. I remember trying to play with the puppy, but she would bite so hard, and she covered my arms in teeth marks and drew some blood. And this was all unprovoked. I felt sorry for doing this, but I ended up sucker-punching the puppy to get her to stop. She was relentless.
I'm glad you weren't hurt any worse than this but you shouldn't have to go through this at all :(
So did animal control take the dog since they couldn’t find the owner?
Please get your CCL.
What is that?
Concealed Carry License.
Your chihuahua wasn't attacking any children or fallen old woman was it? From what I understand chihuahuas are way more dangerous, maybe the pit bull was defending itself preemptively? /s obv
Pits by nature have a VERY strong prey drive. Once a Pit shows aggression when not protecting the owner, it needs to be put down. You cannot condition it out and you cannot train it out of that behavior. Sadly, too many owners get these powerful dogs thinking they're cool or badass and cannot handle them. Weak owners make for dangerous dogs.
I'm sorry you had to experience the results of someone else's ignorance. In future, if a dog is charging to attack, change your mindset to having to kill that animal. Use every dirty trick you can. The ONLY acceptable outcome is you winning the fight. If the owner shows up screaming.. too fucking bad. They had their chance to change the outcome.
when not protecting the owner,
Lol pits are more likely to nanny their owner in a vulnerable state more than anything
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Your content is being removed for promoting misinformation about pit bull-type dogs. Misinformation is not just wrong, it can get people injured or killed.
What you don't know is that we have 6 pit mixes
Ummm what… please don’t lecture our members claiming to know what you’re talking about when you’ve got a multi pit household… that’s just asking for dog fights…
Awwwww… poor pit mommy reported the above comment as “someone is considering self-harm”….
Pit mommy doesn’t know that we counter report jerks that abuse the suicide tool as a form of harassment.
I’m sure you’ll be hearing from Reddit soon. 🖤
I was thinking "wow that's lucky for a pitbull attack" then my eyes bulged out of it's socket to see it was a puppy.
Puppies should not even have prey aggression at such a young age.
Screams how tainted and unredeemable the umbrella of pit bull breeds are when even the puppies are prey driving and attacking people. These breed(s) needs to be purged from the dog breed pool ASAP.
Cements that this is instinctual/natural drive rather than "owner teaching pit bulls to be fighting dogs!" no fuckin way can a 5mo puppy be taught and learn to attack so young.
Especially without an owner even present. It's absolutely ridiculous. Something needs to change, and it shouldn't be people continuing to live in fear of these dogs snapping and killing someone they love.
Pitbulls are the main reason I will always conceal carry a firearm. I'm tired of these shit for brains dogs.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. That dog needs to be put down; if it did this at five months old, I dread to think what will happen when it hits the magical mauling age.
I hope you make a full recovery and I'm so sorry you're left to shoulder the financial cost of someone else's selfishness and stupidity.
They start fighting as puppies with their siblings, these dogs need to be banned. They are not safe, no matter how much you train them.
I’m so sorry! That’s awful and terrifying!
OP you did an amazing job protecting your pet from this maniac of a dog and got yourself hurt bad. Of course the owner is no where to be found. Garbage dogs for garbage people.
I've this videos saved to show people how dangerous they're as puppies. They don't need to be thought to maul
older puppies getting on at each other. sadistic owner putting them in fight
Well, the answer is simple: you and your chihuahua triggered it!
Everyone knows pit bulls are the breed of peace but will fiercely defend themselves when they get triggered.
In the future just remember what their triggers are and you’ll be ok.
Common things that trigger a pit bull:
Other things existing on the same physical plane as the pit bull. Anything alive. Old people. Children. People in general. Animals. Sneezes. Days that end in y. Seizures. Existential concern about the heat death of the universe. Existential dread of vacuum decay.
Don't forget to add Chihuahuas, because they are the most evil and vicious breed.
Sorry this happened to you OP, shitbull owners are the worst
Recently there was a young pit puppy at an off leash area and it was going for several dogs’ throats, including my own dog’s neck. My dog, who likes most dogs and loves puppies, even growled at it. I had to politely tell the owners to come get their puppy before there was a fight. It seems like a normal person would see that and try to stop their dog, but nope. I’ve never seen a puppy behave that way.
I hope you heal well!
Please contact your politicians and health officials at all levels, health officials, media, insurance companies, and civic officials responsible for public safety.
Raise Hell !!!
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I feel bad for that owner. She clearly loved that dog, even if it was dangerous. I'm glad she did the right thing.
Hugs :/ Wish you a speedy recovery. And I’m sorry - you deserve far much better from society.
Brave share and post! Bravo, it will help spread awareness of this dangerous “pb as pets” epidemic. I’m glad your reflexes spared you more harm than this, but it’s traumatic to be attacked this way none the less.
Also, you are so pretty and have a gorgeous nose - Greek Goddess Statue profile!! 😍
Hope you are smiling soon and no scar at all before you know it! Keep under a cute fashion band-aid outdoors in sun this year best you can! This helps big time as it fades as it heals, otherwise if it tans may be there to remind you- Im fussing lol bc I want what you went through with this too all seem like a bad dream that fades and you really can’t remember one day!
This proliferation of pb as pets is tragic. Many victims often take breaks from this sub to stay mentally balanced- just want you to know, it’s common for many of to sub/unsub and join again after taking a mental break. Normal. Stay sweet, stay safe! Hugz!
Any update Op? How are you feeling and how did follow up go?
I'm feeling terrible and it's swelling up more and becoming more painful. I'm on antibiotics right now but I'm not sure how much they're helping.
Aww Bella! Your immune system is working overtime to protect you and now you are really healing after initial “shock” - dogs mouths and bites are more dangerous than we realize because we don’t all work in ER/Hospitals and what we do see is superficial and fine. I wish I could take the pain for you!
I’m not a doctor sweetie, but I hope you are not home alone and consider trip to ER if you aren’t feeling better with antibiotics next couple of days- go with your instinct no matter what. I’m only saying this because infections in the head area ( even a tooth abscess) is very dangerous medically compared to other parts of the body- nothing to be tough about with infections in head! At least if you end up in ER and they send you home, you know you are safe and on road to home recovery.
Meantime, hope you have plenty of care and can rest easy and relax. Extra Vitamin C can only help! Take extra care sis, and keep us posted for support whenever you need it. Sending love and healing vibes! 💕🧿🙏🏼
Did you turn it in?
You brought the most dangerous dog in the world to a public park. Where there are likely children. And you are surprised a Nanny Dog tried to protect the children!?!?!
There was a new xl puppy (4 months I'd guess. And yes they are banned in the UK, so no it shouldn't exist) at the park. On a flimsy lead owned by an airhead of a woman. The moment a dog appeared he was fixated, staring, hackles up and the tip of his tail wagging. He was ready to attack. At That age and with no provocation. it really isn't normal or acceptable
Every dog breed was specifically built, by humans, for a purpose. Retrievers retrieve stuff. Sighthounds run after prey. Pitbulls m4ul and k1ll. It's simple as that.
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All dogs are capable, but with pit bulls; often they just come pre-programmed.
Unless you can point to 12 other deaths within a 12 month period by any other same type of dog… like all herding dogs; or all hounds, etc; then quit your bullshit.
Back it up or stop lying.
We logged 119 pit bull deaths on humans; and thousands of deaths on farm animals and pets.
That does not take into account the thousands of other attacks on humans, pets, and livestock that didn’t end in death, but severe injuries as well.
Unless you can point to other breeds doing that, then don’t come here with that nonsense.
Additionally, it is not only the owners, nor is it only how they are raised. I’m going to link some research that we have put together that comes from the pro pit organizations. Even they are telling you to stop saying that it’s how they’re raised/owners.
Every breed has its share of shitty owners, yet we don’t see any other breed attacking or killing at the rate that Pitbulls do.
Raisedbot
It’s not how they were raised, though. If that was true, then no one should ever adopt a pit from the shelter because no one knows how it was raised. Even pit bull experts are asking people to STOP saying that it's all how they are raised.
Below are five pro-pit sources telling you that saying, "it's how they are raised" is hurtful to the cause.
The truth about pits is that it’s largely up to chance on whether your pit lives a low key life or whether it attacks people, pets, and animals. Yes, socialization and proper training can help... but if you have a truly game-bred pit, there will be nothing you can do to stop it from trying to attack. You can try to manage it, but management will ALWAYS fail.
That’s such a crazy gamble to take with your own life, and with the lives of people in the general public.
Every day we read stories here of pits that attack, and their owners claim that the dog has never been aggressive or acted that way.
Pit owners are often shocked that their dog can go from chill to kill in 5 seconds, and be nearly impossible to stop it.
That’s why pits are dangerous. They were never meant to be pets.
1) Pit Bull Advocates of America - It’s not how they are raised (start from minute 14)
2) Justice for Bullies - It's NOT how they are raised
3) Dr Caroline Coile, author of Pit Bulls for Dummies
5) Gary Wilkes- Grandfather was a dog fighter- Gary Wilkes - his grandfather was a dog fighter
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Are you lost lmao
Let me guess, yet another pitnutter not being able to read the room and thinking OP wanted to hear about how sweet and misunderstood pitties are and that any dog could have done this?
No they said the “any dog could do that it’s the owner not the breed” like sir? Don’t see where you are?
I just wanna know wtf they think that does to help console a victim. It’s more harmful than helpful anyway.
Just proves they don’t give a shit about victims or that pit bulls attack, they only give a shit about making pit bulls look good even though they attack
It’s a cult I swear
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Misinformation is not just wrong, it can get people injured or killed.
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I was walking my chihuahua by our town's local park when an off leash pitbull puppy zeroed onto my dog.
Within seconds it started to charge, snarling and growling. I crouched down to try and protect my dog and it latched onto my face. I grabbed it by the head and it started doing the pitbull death roll, shaking itself to try and tear off flesh.
If I hadn't had a hold of its head, I would've been much more injured. I had to physically pry it's jaws off of me.
This is not normal puppy behavior. This is not nipping. This is aggression.
I don't know who the owner is and the police cannot find them. The dog's vaccination status is unknown and I'm recommended to take a course of 3 rabies vaccines since I've been vaccinated against rabies ~1 year ago due to a similar incident.
It's $300 with insurance. That's money I could put into fixing my house after a recent storm but no, I'm left shouldering the entire cost because some pithag around me cannot be responsible with their dog.
The attack happened on May 15th, 2024.