I remember during the 1-31 era, I bought tickets to Browns-Steelers game in Cleveland for like $8. And then on the day of the game I found much better seats for like $24. But hey... some sucker season ticket holder paid full price for those tickets so the team is doing alright financially, I guess.
Putting locked freezers of free beer all around the city with the promise of opening them to anyone and everyone once they actually win a game will make rabid fans for any team. The problem is, the Browns are the only team to suck that bad to even make that an option, LOL
Northern Ohio is home to more people than Southern Ohio. Also the Browns fanbase is rabidly loyal and I think Columbus tilts slightly more to Browns than Bengals.
For these teams it probably comes down to national fan bases outside of their home markets. Steelers get to live off the 70s dynasty and their objectively good color scheme for them having wide spread branding reach. Same for the Ravens but replace the dynasty with Ray Lewis being Ray Lewis and their defenses being iconic recently enough. Browns are just old and historic (technically not but you know they got their whole silly city keeps the history thing). Bengals are finally getting real national hype with Joey B. But it’s still to new to hit these evaluations . Living in LA I see Steelers and Ravens stuff on the regular. Browns to a lesser extent but still more than I would have guessed. Bengals, I spot every once and while and it’s usually a Burrow, Chase, or maybe some AJ Green merch.
Im gonna have to stop you right there. The Steelers color scheme looks like piss, literally. Orange and black is way cooler imo, therefore I am objectively right.
In the real world that every other team that’s ever moved lives in. It is a new franchise. But da wittle babies got their feelings hurt so mommy made it all better and made it special just for them.
Thank you. All we have is a statue of Johnny Unitas in a Colts uniform outside our stadium as history, but these baboons still cry about losing their team for a COUPLE years.. Make it make sense lmfao
Don't worry u/mmooney1 we are in the whole be relevant once a decade for Cincy. They will go back to Browns or Steelers jerseys when they realize that Chase likes money more than Mike Brown likes being cheap.
Once a decade is still pretty good to be relevant. Browns showed signs with Baker but I never thought Watson was going to be good on the Browns, simply because that’s not how things have historically worked out for us.
I think Baker was what he was. Exciting at times other head scratcher. Reminds me of Flacco. But at same time you stuck with your guy and it's weird to see how things developed.
You gave a bag to a sexual Predator who at best is mid, you have a RB who may or may not even be good cause he got his leg snapped, Cooper is unhappy with his current contract, and your entire fanbase values revenue over winning and pff grades over production.
I am worried about Chubb and our OL this year. Not so much our starting OL but when injuries start stacking up Callahan kept us competent with 5th stringers in. You guys should be worried about your starting OL.
Cooper is a 30yo with no guarantees in his contract. I expect this to get resolved with a short extension and guarantees, which could help us cap wise.
We are a true fan base. Not some lackluster bandwagon bitches. We have gone through the pain, we know how bad we have been historically, and we are still here.
Maybe you are an OG bengals fan, and if so kudos to you (and I know your pain historically).
Funny thing is I’m just talking shit for fun. NFL is revenue sharing anyways.
I was a Bengals fan through the 90s when you didn't even have a team (truly sorry that must've sucked more than anything). Don't come here saying we are all bandwagons
What you're saying is never take financial advice from Jimmy Haslam. As he keeps investing into something that's never going to be successful. Hard Copy, Over...
People there love their Browns, we have no idea why. The Haslam’s don’t know why, no one does for that matter. But they do and they show up and they spend. And they travel amazingly well, for obvious reasons. As a matter fact, probably the best traveling team fan base in the entire league, any excuse to get the hell out of Cleveland.
To be fair, the entire state of West Virginia claims the Steelers. They also consider their entire state to be a suburb of Pittsburgh. Also, Steubenville, Ohio and the surrounding area because of the thousands of people who worked for Weirton Steel or Wheeling-Pitt Steel.
The flattering of values throughout the league without the wild variations that you would expect basically comes from the fact that most of the value comes from membership in the NFL, the CBA, the revenue sharing, and the competitive balance built into the league. Its pretty hard to lose money with an NFL team no matter how hard you try.
I refuse to believe the Ravens have marginally more value than the Steelers and Browns nearly the Steelers.
The Steelers have a massive fan base all over. That's why "market size" is irrelevant, because Packers and Steelers always top 5 in merch sales because their early history established a fan base.
There's more Steelers fans than home team when they play Chargers and Cardinals. Browns and Ravens can't and don't do that.
Browns also have a very good national fanbase. They took over the Chargers game in 21, Panthers in 22, and had a shit ton of fans at every road game last year
Probably behind still from when their fans showed their true colors and there were articles about large portions of their stadium being empty during their home opener in 2017.
Wait, what's your playoff record look like over the last four years? Hahaha. Worst valuation but better playoff records than the whole division over the last few years.
How do the other cities manage that extra 50 million?