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One of his biggest haters in literally a wojack with cuck fetish
Especially one that looks like that
I just think thats hes a asshat and full off himself. Other than that yeah he aint wrong bout much.
As a vaush fan, yeah he's kinda egotistical, adds to the charm tho
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Tactical racial slur moment
🤠
Horseman good
Whats the deal with the horse jokes and Vaush?
Vaush once talked positively about the dick shape and size of horses and said that he would like to be a horse for the sake of having said dick. Of course, the internet's previous history of having jokes about the attributes of the dick (such as the infamous Mr. Hands incident or the song "No Cock Like Horse Cock") made it very easy to misconstrue Vaush's views as him wanting to be fucked by a horse or him advocating for beastiality. Of course, this is untrue, as Vaush is just a furry.
once
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Why would he say that though. You just said that as if that in itself isn’t a fucking weird thing to say
why wouldnt he say that
🤨🤨🤨
Funny lol
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he made a lot of comments about how horse penises are superior to human ones and that he has one. And about how women want to be fucked by horses or something I dunno.
incomprehensible
He fantasizes about horse penises because they're big and he wants to be the horse
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vaush single handedly caused the holodomor
He ate all the food and caused the hunger
he stole all the clothes off their corpses to use in his fashion arc
Truuuuuuuuue bestie
He killed my wife and my baby with hopes to enslave me (this is a Megadeth reference)
I love saying shit like Vaush is literally Hitler in one comment and then have to explain to some dipshit wokescold why him being mean to genocide deniers who daily harass him with death threats isn't the tragic character flaw they think it is, or saying nword in stream 4 years ago doesn't invalidate his massive contribution to denazifying YouTube debate sphere. Because he debated almost every influential Nazi and none came out looking good.
Being vaushite is truly something.
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Ask him what he was doing in 39-45
this is true (i am russian and history books say he did it)
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broke: vaush is a transphobic imperialist and i hate him
woke: vaush is annoying and i dont like him
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it's a tough life out there
Having good politics doesn't automatically make someone innocent of being a toxic shithead
He's one third as toxic as people "criticizing" him, if that. I don't know how I would act if hundreds of "lefties" were throwing death threats at me every day, and he's surprisingly gentle to dipshits that he only ever got abuse and cry bullying from.
Idk the “tactical racism moment”, and how he handled criticism about it, makes him seem like an insufferable person to be around lol.
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Same thing
He humiliated few nazis on their own channel, made them look like fragile cretins, I see this as a win, the more people see nazis as emotional drug addled dipshits that they are it's a win for me.
Can you tell me who did he hurt by saying a slur? were they more hurt than when said nazis just n-worded 150 times trough the video? Did mere uttering of the word caused some harm? So why didn't black people evaporate when nazis were screaming slurs if just saying it is harmful?
idk why fans of this guy act like he had to use a slur to win an argument against fucking nazis lol.
Why go down to a nazi’s level bro? Explain to me why he needed to say a slur just to win a argument against nazis of all people. Did his entire argument need to have these nazis “shocked” by a slur they say and shout to people on the daily?
He didn't HAVE to, he didn't have to do anything, he did what was rhetorically effective and it's good to be effective against literal Nazis.
I still haven't heard an argument to why what he said was harmful tho, I'm still waiting.
Bro, I don’t know how to make you understand that talking like nazis in an argument against them hurts the argument and the side you’re fighting for.
So you admit that he didn’t need to say the slur for his argument, it’s just to try and “shock” fucking nazis lol
Still haven’t explained why this dude couldn’t make an argument against nazis without using the slur btw.
Oh so dunking on Nazis, making fun of them for their race realism, JQ and brainlet conspiracies is "talking like Nazis". Didn't know Nazis believe everything left leaning people do. Why are they Nazis again?
That's not true, but even if it were, the cartoonish overexaggeration and oversimplification you're applying to critics would suggest that 1/3 of that is still worth calling out.
I really don't want to go through the drama videos, but nah.. there is so much disingenuous shit thrown to him. He is not worse than vast majority of his detractors.
Edit: This dipshit blocked me.
Edit: This dipshit blocked me.
It's a badge of honor
So what? Every left-wing youtuber gets disingenuous shit thrown at them, much moreso when they're queer and poc. You can push it from "1/3" to "vast majority" all you like, it's not gonna make the "still worth calling out" parts disappear when they're not a universal issue for all lefty youtubers the way dumb shit from the right is. You're treating it like it's team sports.
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This dipshit blocked me.
Yeah of course I'm gonna block you when you have an instant knee-jerk response for any criticism of your prick youtube daddy. Being an asshole will never make you or him a victim.
I didn't see any knee-jerk reactions. It seems like you just blocked him because he had a different opinion....
The opinion being that some of his critics are somehow worse or whatever, therefore stop criticizing him
I didn't see any knee-jerk reactions. It seems like you just blocked him because he had a different opinion....
This
he doesn’t even have good politics, he just clears the incredibly low bar of not being openly hateful towards trans people and being left of joe biden.
Vowsh bad vowsh bad vowsh bad vowsh bad vowsh bad vowsh bad vowsh bad vowsh bad vowsh bad
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Someone can have good and bad takes. But calling him CIA implants or whatever is dumb lol.
The CIA agent getting huge tits to blend in with vaushes community
Based?
He's the realest leftist out there I love him <3
He somehow radicalized me about trans stuff more than any trans perosn ever managed to do lol
"Nobody is allowed to change from being a bad person at any point 😡😡😡😡😡😡" what all u mfs sound like
Man got some pretty good takes
Untill his video game takes
why your wojak look like nothing there from lobotomy corp
why does Nothing There from popular game lobotomy corporation hate vaush
A = vaush confirmed ?
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Didn’t see it until you said that, holy shit.
He has done more quantifiable good for the online left than any of us. If everything you said over the last 10 years was under scrutiny you'd be just as hated. He's very good at making right-wing grifters look stupid, which doesn't take a lot I'll admit, but he's still a force for good.
I think a lot of the hate he gets for being annoyingly confident and direct is lowkey just autism tbh
highkey, I am the same way, and get routinely dogpiled for being confident in my beliefs and education, especially here on 196.
"Imagine being confident, fuck you for believing in your ideas"
Stupidest criticism ever.
I wouldn’t call him an imperialist or cia agent, I’m sure some people would but this fees like a straw man. A lot of critique, if you agree with it or not, is a lot more level headed. This is not a way to respond to them as a whole, and it’s frustrating how common it has become.
shitty post+actual vosh fan
He is not a cia agent, he’s a dipshit full of himself
Sorry OP, they never will.
He's a dweeb and I don't like him
B-B-But the horse….
He wants to be the horse
Vorse is so based
lol great stuff
He's a dweeb and I don't like him
I think we should stop using wojaks. thanks
He ate my cat, spit the bones on my lap and told me that I shouldn't be a fucking liberal :(
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He is a liberal tho.
doesnt get more liberal than abolishing the bourgeois class
His “socialism” merely abolishes the bourgeois class as a personalization of capital, not capital itself. His “socialism” is not socialism because it is not a change in the mode of production or the social relations of said mode, but a change in the appearance of the relations of the mode of production, hence he is a liberal.
Market socialism is a transitionary period to ease a market based organisation of the economy through the political disturbances of abolishing the capitalist class, without also having to deal with a complete economic restructuring. It abolishes the perverse material incentives of capitalism that drives it to exploit, and takes away the institutional power of capital, clearing space for a slow, careful, and methodical reorganisation of the economy from the ground up, and under stable social conditions. It is also something that can be achieved with minimal conflict with other nations which remain capitalist, reducing the likelihood of capital waging reactionary war from the outside, and improving trade to keep the reorganising economy strong. It also includes policies to ease the conflicts of its own mode of production, because it is founded on marxist analysis, ensuring first and foremost that all necessities to both survive and flourish on both individual and community levels are provided as a human right. This is intended not only to make this transitional period more ethical while it lasts, but to instil in the general public a respect and appreciation for those human rights as the democratic government continues to overhaul the economy, rapidly suffocating reactionary counter movements. This is not only the fastest and most stable way to establish a proletarian state after a revolution, it is also the fastest and most effective way to transition through the stages of socialism into communism, by starting on a manageable amount of change, never stopping the progress leftward, while maintaining social freedoms both positive and negative, to give reactionism nothing to complain about. In some ways this ties into certain very basic principles of permanent revolution, avoiding the pitfall of stagnating in an ostensibly socialist, but authoritarian and internally reactionary state, that so many past projects have fallen into. It is a reapplication of actual marxist analysis, not that state-capitalist tripe from stalin and co, and modern historical context to the socialist projects of the past, to allow a revolution to take place without stalling the entire society for years on end, sacrificing everyone's quality of life, giving room for reactionaries, or weakening the socialist movement to outside threat. And the material conditions won't even force you to gulag gay people. And in case it wasn't crystal clear, the next step is full socialist production, done in socioeconomic stability, and relative international safety.
Market “socialism” is an oxymoron, don’t get it twisted. Still just as capitalist as the USSR or the USA, just a different form. Additionally, minimizing conflict with other nations should not be a goal because global revolutionary conflict is inherently necessary to establish socialism (which is communism) as it is a global economic order and cannot exist in one state (unless you’re a Stalinist who subscribes to ‘socialism in one country’). In addition, it is global socioeconomic crises which cause the proletarian revolutions necessary to combat capitalism. And market “socialism” does not abolish the material incentives of capitalism, how even could it? Profit and exploitation still exist they are simply redistributed on their production, and numerous raw resources would still be imported from peripheral countries, especially if you’re insistent on maintaining the extant international state of affairs with simply a domestic political shift. Nor is there any reason to believe that this would necessarily drive a political shift to the “left” (a term so vague that it is almost meaningless), especially without a concrete political proletarian dictatorship, nor is there any actual reason to believe it wouldn’t evoke a reactionary movement.
I literally described how all of those things would happen. If there are no capital holders, there can be no capital in government, and the motivations of firms shift from political influence to aiding their workers, as they are owned and controlled directly by their workers. With no capital in government, no bourgeois class at all, and a democratic system, the state can only be proletarian, as there is no other class for it to represent. The term 'left' was clearly defined by its context, in this case a shift towards true social organisation of the economy, driven by the directly experienced benefits to public and personal life of the already established socialistic policies of collective ownership and decommodification. All of which I explained before. Your response is the equivalent of "nuh uh"
When the socialist isn't socialist enough.
It's fuckers like you who complain about Biden and threaten to withhold votes because he "isn't good enough for the left" regardless of what happens. Worry about end goals when we aren't in fear of being silenced outright.
Yeah you are someone who would vote for someone actively supporting a genocide
Tell me who you'd vote for in Trump v Biden round 2
I won’t vote for anyone who’s actively engaged with the mass slaughter of a minority group
Didn’t realize this blew up. Vaush is Neato.
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Vaush is a prick who has spent 3 years learning the most basic leftist opinions and became super smug about it. If you like him that's fine but to say that all criticism is just people calling him a fed is openly disingenuous.
run me by some of these super secret advanced leftist opinions
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Vaush fans saying vaush is treated unfairly is more exhausting than people calling Vaush bad. Dudes successful. He's going to be fine. The mods here should ban vaush posting.
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Well he is a racist lmao
Sourse?
Uhhh
You're allowed to like a thing
Other people are allowed to not like a thing
This does not have to be discourse
Please go outside
God, youre describing a nice place that must be far, far away from the internet.
Here, the most innocuous thing is cause for vitriol
Idk why vowsh fans insist on making a shit about him every couple of months
It's well known that this sub doesn't like him and the reasons for it, but it's also not like this sub is consistently shitting on the guy so why come and make a fuss trying to make drama
As much as i personally dont like the guy, we DO have a dedicated bot that responds to the mention of his name. We could probably lessen the drama a bit without it, ill bet
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Attacking minorities is absolutely not what happened. He criticised contra for a take she has. Just because they are a minority should not make them immune to criticism. If someone is wrong or you believe they are wrong, criticising them should not mark you as a bigot unless you are attacking that portion of their being.
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Vaush said shame her in passing during a livestream after she publically called him out in a scripted video, insulted and berated him. Also vaush has more power over her? She has over double his popularity and outreach and sorry friend but being trans is not a get out of jail free card. You can be wrong and trans at the same time. Also just because they are a minority is not a defense. Isrealis are a minority but you wouldnt defend the IDF would you.
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He is awful lmao. Great man theory for Twitch streamers so so sad and funny.
As opposed to other politics streamers, who in now way have large egos. Like hasan for example. Nowhere online will you find someone more willing to admit when they are wrong. Or mikePA, deeply humble and respectful of disagreement.
I don't know who the other two people I just don't watch political streamers. Getting your politics from folks yelling at each other online or reacting to Israeli propaganda videos seems very… eh. Just read some Dauvé or Tiqqun or something.
The fact you think that's where anyone gets theory tells me you really don't understand what they do lol
Okay cool Idc. And I've met people irl who osmosis their political stances from streamers like Vaush. It is so gross.
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Annoying internet political celeb who is comfortable with weaponising bigotry against people when he doesn't like them.
When did he do that?
"women shut the fuck up challenge" to JKR, I literally don't care what excuses he had, it's still misogyny.
And no, I'm not debating this, because I know what debating Vaush fans can be like.
He never denied that this was a misogynistic joke.
I think we all say offensive stuff on some level. Nobody raises an eye on using world "bitch" to refer to women which is also mysoginistic. The problem comes when people use comedy to disingeniously hide their true beliefs via "just joking" strategy which I don't think he did in that instance.
And no, I'm not debating this, because I know what debating Vaush fans can be like.
Sorry if you had bad experience with voushites before, in my experience the community seems pretty chill which is why there are plenty of voushheads in this sub.
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Maybe nobody you know raises an eyebrow at that, I certainly do. And as I said, I'm not debating it, it was misogynistic and it is a problem regardless of intention.
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bad post + vaush has a pattern of sexually harassing women :/
he's got a pattern of being sexually harassed BY women
literally zero source, he sexually harassed a woman named poppy online this is very easy to find
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I think sexual harassment is bad actually
I hope more leftists had this take when kat balque sexually harassed him on twitter and didn't just shrug it off :/
Him calling liberals spineless jackasses doesn't mean he's not a liberal. It just means that a radlib is making fun of a lib.
actually i think it means he’s smelly and gay
Are ya gonna vote for biden? And if you are not american, are you pro voting for biden for american people?
Yes, people should vote for Biden. As I said in another comment on this sub, 70% Hitler is better than 95% Hitler. Regardless, I don't see the point you're trying to make. I hate vaush because he's a market "socialist" which is an ideology that does nothing to do away the contradictions of class society.
Just proding.
He doesn't usually talk these days about socialism moving forward these days with rise of fascism and such.
His position from my memory is that we must promote worker coops and establish market democracy before doing any major decomodification.
He argued that social democracies suck because the existing capital motive isn't destroyed which can cause backslides like the ones that are happening in Finland.
Also his recent coverage of Bangladesh Garment workers had some points why we need global worker liberation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xMfEc3Ib8
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helped a zionist label antizionists as antisemites
referred to trans people as mentally ill
compared a black woman(who wasn’t even a black nationalist) to hitler and called her a black supremacist because she calmly explained black nationalism to him
said that there were, and I quote, “a disproportionate number of jews in banking in weimar germany”
compared very moderate land back to white genocide
ridiculed a genderfluid person’s identity
unironically complained about blue-haired sjws launching a war on christmas
long, long history of misogynistic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc “jokes”
When the fuck did he say there was a war on Christmas lmaooooo y'all will just make up the dumbest sounding shit now, huh?
Please give sources for these
I'll just copy my response to you too.
compared a black woman(who wasn’t even a black nationalist) to hitler and called her a black supremacist because she calmly explained black nationalism to him
Professor Flowers? She pretty strongly implied that she thinks it's okay to South Africans to forcibly remove the "colonizers" from the land. And by colonizers she by her own admission meant white people.
compared very moderate land back to white genocide
Professor Flowers isn't land back, she's just a blitler.
said that there were, and I quote, “a disproportionate number of jews in banking in weimar germany”
That whole NonCompete debate was a whacky trainwreck. He argued against a dipshit who argued against the concept of.. I can't remember the word.. suppositions and moral frameworks? He wanted the person who by then lost any good faith in the debate to explain why Nazi's were bad argument-wise. Non-Compete said that their conspiracy theories were wrong, to which Voush did say that there the thing.
Vorsh argued that Jews were a disproportionatly represented in the finance because of historic factors "usary" comes to mind. I don't know how true that is, but he's pretty clear that presuming this was true it did not mean there was a conspiracy or any justification for nazi ideology
NonCompete in that argument kind of implied that if Jews were controlling the banking system there'd be a point to their ideology
He also used this moment to say one of his points earlier in career about dealing with 13/50 arguments. He said that some people on the left do have an instinct to deny the statistics, when much more rhetorically efficient way to deal with it is to ask why black people are over represented in crime and point to sociological factors.
compared a black woman(who wasn’t even a black nationalist) to hitler and called her a black supremacist because she calmly explained black nationalism to him
Professor Flowers? She pretty strongly implied that she thinks it's okay to South Africans to forcibly remove the "colonizers" from the land. And by colonizers she by her own admission meant white people.
compared very moderate land back to white genocide
Professor Flowers isn't land back, she's just a blitler.
said that there were, and I quote, “a disproportionate number of jews in banking in weimar germany”
That whole NonCompete debate was a whacky trainwreck. He argued against a dipshit who argued against the concept of.. I can't remember the word.. suppositions and moral frameworks? He wanted the person who by then lost any good faith in the debate to explain why Nazi's were bad argument-wise. Non-Compete said that their conspiracy theories were wrong, to which Voush did say that there the thing.
Vorsh argued that Jews were a disproportionatly represented in the finance because of historic factors "usary" comes to mind. I don't know how true that is, but he's pretty clear that presuming this was true it did not mean there was a conspiracy or any justification for nazi ideology
NonCompete in that argument kind of implied that if Jews were controlling the banking system there'd be a point to their ideology
He also used this moment to say one of his points earlier in career about dealing with 13/50 arguments. He said that some people on the left do have an instinct to deny the statistics, when much more rhetorically efficient way to deal with it is to ask why black people are over represented in crime and point to sociological factors.
professor flowers is an ethnonationalist and you're never letting that slide past anyone
helped a zionist label anti zionist’s as antisemites
Source?
referred to trans people as mentally ill
He has done far more defending then that one line y’all like to bring up, also is there something wrong with being mentally ill?’
compared a black women to hitler and called her a black supremacist
She failed to understand that the massive scale rounding up and deportation/killing of people was not morally okay, she afterwords got stuck on if it counted as genocide or not.
said that there were, and I quote, “a disproportionate amount of Jews in banking in Weimar Germany”
He was saying that even if such a thing is true doesn’t mean it justifies what was done to them. It’s pretty fucked up that you would think that that alone would be a bad thing about Jews, as if the thing the Nazis did wrong was kill people who weren’t what they said they were, rather than the fact that the action of mass genocide is wrong in the first place.
compared very moderate land back to white genocide
I’m gonna need a source on that one buddy, he has supported land back in the past.
ridiculed a genderfluid person’s identity
Once again, source? He’s a gender abolitionist very openly.
unironically complained about blue hair-sjws declaring war on Christmas
Haven’t seen him talk about this but I’ve heard him say other similar things, usually he is ridiculing this very small but loud group of people who are very obsessed with minor cultural issues as opposed to the real problems that face our society. These people do a lot to hurt the left wings cause because to the average working class person they seem completely ridiculous and so said people are blown up by the right for their political gain.
long, long history of misogynistic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc “jokes”
They’re jokes, that’s all they are, you only put the quotation marks because you don’t like him. He has a massive and largely queer community on top of him being pan sexual himself.
There is a lot to be said about Vaush that is a negative. He rarely understands what he is talking about when it comes to any kind of radical politics (a semi recent example was thinking a post about the decommodification of labor was “anti work” all the while using a right wing talking point and on top of that contradicting previous points he’s made on the positives of ending of wage slavery) and it is very clear he doesn’t try to think about his ideas very much, rather he just holds onto them dogmatically. But you people who hate him so much seem to love to use a bunch of disingenuous arguments to try to bring him down.
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- where?
- this is either in reference to him calling twitter users specifically mentally ill, or to him describing the presence of gender dysphoria in the DSM5
- if you mean professor flowers here, she was definitely in support of that position
- There were a disproportionate number of jewish people in banking in that part of the world. This is because for most of european history, most people were forbidden from doing moneylending due to scripture, and also because jewish people were often barred form doing any other work. It is an artifact of their historical oppression that was later weaponized against them to oppress them further, and denying that aspect of their historical struggle is ignorant and counterproductive.
- the topic being discussed during that "very moderate land back" conversation was whether or not liberation movements should be permissable to ethnically cleanse civilians. They both came to the table in favor of land back, the idea of eradicating all colonisers, which she confirmed meant all white people in her case, came up, and he simply asked her if she wanted to denounce that as a possibility, which she refused to do. He then had an actual land back activist on his stream shortly after who said he did a great job supporting land back and denouncing flowers's deranged screed.
- where?
- god forbid a neurodivergent gay person do anything
Moderate land back?
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I don’t know if I can get past the fact that you used wojaks unironically