It'd also be a good arc, learning to improve for himself instead of others.
Spite, 100%. The ex is totally a mob boss of some kind.
Thats even funnier if they are still together tho and Hero-Husband has to keep almost-catching his Mobster-Wife.
“Void Knight! Why does Shelly D. Killer keep escaping you?”
“She’s my nemesis dude, stop asking so many questions”
"Wait nemesis or Nemesis?"
"...you just said the same word twice."
"Well the former is the villain from your rogues gallery that hates you so much that they dedicate their lives to ruining yours intimately, while you also hate them just as much resulting in a fucked up co-dependant relationship that the two of you should really see a therapist over. The latter is a weird sex thing that sometimes occurs between a hero and a particular villain that causes them both to go easier on each other than they usually would be. Unless the danger is part of the thrill and then they don't."
"How do you know all this?"
"I'm being mentored in the basics of Superhero therapy. My mentor says stuff like that all the time. Surprisingly helpful if you can correctly parse the information."
Shelly de Killer had a sex change? Well, I guess a master assassin will stop at nothing.
First, AA reference, nice. Second, isn't Shelly de Killer just a title that gets passed down through master assassins, and not the real name of the one assassin we see in the second game? Or am I misremembering?
No, you're right, it could be the predecessor of the de Killer we all know and love or someone later down the line who's taken up the mantle.
Aay AA fans, my people :)
No I think it's funnier if she's not a villain. I propose a character whose relationship ended for a multitude of reasons but in their last fight their wife said "You'll never amount to anything," so the hero becomes a hero to prove that they could do something great and the end of their first arc has the hero reveal their secret identity to their ex to try and win her back and she's just like "No, you fixed the ambitiousless thing but that doesn't fix (insert a list of other incompatibilities)." Then their second arc can be about learning that they don't need their ex but they have also found fulfillment in being a hero so they don't have to stop just because it's not going to get her back
Flashpoint Thomas and Martha Wayne.
Provided a far more understandable reason for Batman to not kill the Joker.
Have you seen the movie Mr. & Mrs. Smith?
This is secretly what's really going on with Batman and The Joker.
Sounds like a very light hearted version of flashpoint.
Captain Saviour used to be Dr Genocide PhD, but then her wife Queen Carnage took the evil lair and henchmen in the divorce
This comment made me laugh so hard I started coughing.
but then she met princess powerpuff and thats working out a little bit
I feel like the ex-turned-evil thing shows up in fiction fairly often, but it’s always supposed to be tragic. Playing it for comedy would be better.
Okay hear me out:
They were BOTH villains, and then the hero got dumped and became a hero to spite the ex, now that they have a nemesis that has insider knowledge.
And the Ex doesn't use what they know of the hero as blackmail/reputation ICBM fuel because ?
The hero admitted it all already, and served a reduced sentence for it.
No, the wife isn't evil at all there is literally nothing about her that should indicate this guy needs to be a hero out of spite or to win her back but his childhood delusions of becoming a super hero are so intense they're both obviously a sign of his lack of emotional development which caused their divorce and also notably a sign that he has been entirely oblivious to anything she ever wanted.
Guy saves a school bus from going off a cliff and all he can think is "Damn I'm cool she's gotta be totally impressed now!" and then it just skips over to her on a diner date with a guy, and she is super impressed that her date can cook and has kept his house relatively clean.
Ex is a cop. He got sick of her job complaints so became a hero to show her he could do a better job. Occasionally makes sassy remarks when turning in the bad guys
Now we're getting into some character dynamics! How are we going to work in the kids?
The children have to swap weeks with each parent, but whenever they try to tell the other parent about the plans of their ex, they just shut them down because that's cheating. The kids definetly have favorite parents though.
- She and I just didn't work but we still get coffee about once a month. I'm a hero entirely unrelated to it.
- She won't won't share custody of the kids though I'm a hero, but I can't tell the court because it's my secret identity and I would put my family at risk, so I keep it a secret and try too convince her to let me see my kids.
It would actually be cool if he can only see his kids as a hero, but only the kids know his true identity.
I wanted to be a martial arts hero and stay married but it doesn't pay the bills and she refused to support my hobby on one income when reducing crime is just going to raise housing prices anyway.
I can't keep a secret identity and she didn't want to be kidnapped by villains every week so we parted on good terms but publicly made it acrimonious to make everyone think I wouldn't risk the city to rescue her.
She left me for another guy who I discovered is secretly a villain so I became a hero so I could anonymously beat him up regularly without consequences.
I was a boring normal accountant, she wanted someone more exciting, and a living ball of chaos recruited me into his hero group against my will, but she doesn't believe me when I tell her and cosmic luck interferes every time I try to prove it.
I divorced her because she was three kobolds in a trench coat so I joined the adventurers guild to stop that exact kind of villainy.
Spite has a lot of potential to be funny. "Oh, you didn't think I was "manly" enough when we were together? Me and my REAL friends just killed an ancient black dragon that's been threatening Bridgetown for 30 years. Is that "manly" enough for you, Gwen?! CAN YOUR NEW BOYFRIEND KILL AN ANCIENT BLACK DRAGON, GWEN!?"
I read this as a drunk mid-20s Kevin Levin yelling at the Tennyson household, only to realise he’s at the wrong household.
Ben drives him home because they are still cool like that though.
Plot twist: Ben intentionally drove him to the wrong house initially so Kevin wouldn’t say anything he’d regret.
Oh I love that idea.
I just want more content of ben and kevin being bros.
Self esteem 100%, but it won't come up unless the DM uses the estranged spouse to heckle your character.
Could be at your high point, returning to town from slaying a dragon, and you just hear, "killing a dragon won't make you good in bed, STEVE"
Okay but that last one sounds like some good fucking drama and I might have to steal it
I don't really blame her, I had completely let myself go. After she left I hit the gym, met a girl who was into the whole superpower thing, and now I'm going out of patrol with her. Really it worked out well for everyone.
"The criminal underworld took my wife!" "Your wife got murdered!?!?" "No, she's fucking Two-Face!"
Imagine a superhero turning into a villain because his ex-wife told everyone about his weird fetish. Extra points if the villain's theme is based around his fetish.
Number 5 is the funniest. He or she could be floundering trying to figure out their motivation and like, should I get a “real” career, and did I start doing this for my old relationship or me?… and thinking that if they just keeping hero-ing that they will, and do, run into their ex. Can incorporate 4) nothing to lose 1) get ‘em back, 3) spite, 2) self-esteem… all as part of the dramatic arc of self-growth. With no need to lazily write in a one-dimensional dead character as a static motivation.
No “woman in refrigerator” needed. It’s tired as hell by now.
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/24/17384064/deadpool-vanessa-fridging-women-refrigerators-comics-trope
5 would be interesting if the ex went from hero to villain but the hero doesn't realize it is their ex.
“I have to be a hero because her new boyfriend is very cool and I need to surpass him.”
5 reminds me of fallen hero lol
3 Cause spite is the best motivation
It could be a combination of any of them in multiple orders.
Maybe the hero saves people to spite her but learns they're doing it to improve themselves. Inversely maybe they save people to improve themselves and part of that process is learning that cheating whore needs to get spitted.
- We were heroes before together and I just kinda kept at it.
Especially if they both keep the same nemesis.
how about the hero has to be a hero because they need to, and the divorce was because they were never around home.
6.) I have to be a hero to pay my alimony.
Or, I have to be a hero so someone will love me again.
Spite is, and will always be, the absolute best motivation.
Peter B. Parker
I wouldn’t consider this to be funnier but it was definitely way more interesting
The scene where he's talking to Mary Jane about bread and she was so confused? That was funny as shit.
True, but the overall situation is more sad than funny. Even that scene is kinda sad. He just wanted to talk to his ex wife, because he was planning on being the one to stay behind to save the other spider people because he didn’t really have anyone to go back to as far as he knew
Also, from her perspective, some guy is kinda creeping on her while dressed as her dead husband.
Yeah and he looked like him too. Poor Mary Jane
Peter breaking it down over some pita
The B is for Bivorce.
🅱️ivorce
He kinda divorced MJ in the One More Day/Brand New Day storyline. He just used a demon to do it.
Ben Grim from the fantastic 4 movie.
When he couldn't pick up the ring because his fingers were too fat.
"I sleep in a Batcave. Do you?"
"I sleep in a big bed, with my wife..."
“With your wife? Small world, so do I.”
I think Batman would know if someone else was sleeping in the bat cave
Doofenshmirtz
There isn’t a SINGLE horrible backstory of the day involving her. Their divorce was mutual and they're way more amicable than most exes.
Can't believe divorce is one of the nicest parts of Doof's life. Making me cry and stuff
Honestly an amazingly well written and well rounded character overall
And they co-parent well.
It's very mature.
They're not spiteful to each other and they get along well. They just know the marriage didn't work out and we never get to know the reason. But it doesn't matter. As long as they're happy about it.
Evil Incorporated 🎶
But Doofinshmertz's divorce with his ex wife is played completely straight and the two are amicable towards each other, and the divorce plays absolutely no part in any of his many tragic backstories. The only comedy derived from it is from how it subverts the typical portrayal of divorced couples being bitter and resentful towards each other.
Probably the only time it's ever played for laughs is in the Across the Second Dimension universe, where the alternate universe Doof is also divorced but for tax purposes (as well as several other convuluted reasons), and the two are actually still together.
I still love that song
Yeah, and look how well that’s working out for him.
Hey his ex-wife's alimony pays for most of his -inators. Id say it worked out pretty well
And his daughter loves him, what more could you ask for?
Maybe dominion over the entire tri-state area?
That's the dog catching his own tail. If he actually succeeded he'd have no reason to continue making the plots and building the -inators which is clearly what he finds fulfilling.
A platypus
Puts on a fedora
PERRY THE PLATYPUS?!
Asgore
oh I was wondering why they don't live together. I need to play that game some day
He's the most Divorced man ever. He and Toriel are like soulmates, but in the sense they will always end up divorced. Lmaoooo
Even in an alternate universe where he doesn't kill 6 children, Asgore's marriage will still fail.
The eggs-husband line slayed me
This is why Scott Lang Antman is the best superhero.
Divorcing him was the right thing to do, but he became a hero. And the stepdad is a decent dude, AND he's cool with Scott once he gets his act together. So glad they didn't try to split up wife and stepdad, and everyone can act like adults.
AND he is the world's best grandma.
Yeah I like that they did away with the tired trope of ditching the step parent at the end. In real life your parents can love you and still not be the right fit for each other. Your step parent can also be a better fit for one of your parents and love you like their own.
Those first two movies were great for this kind of stuff.
I actually love the friendship that developed between Scott and the stepdad
You know what I hate about the way Marvel has treated Scott?
In the first movie, he is shown to have gotten a degree in mechanical engineering from MIT. The reason he went to jail was to punish a corporation that was fucking over their customers.
Yet after that, he is always treated as this dumb idiot that constantly needs to get owned metaphorically. His ex-wife and daughter treat him as this greedy asshole that did what he did because of money and selfishness. I like Scott Lang for his potential, but man did Marvel really just treat the character as an easy punching bag.
What? His daughter always had faith in him, at least in the movies I've seen (not seen Quantumania).
Plus, yeah one degree in engineering? How's that compared to Tony Stark, who was smarter than every genius he employed, or Bruce Banner who has like 12 PhDs?
She still idolizes him in Quantumania, just not as much because she’s older (teenager/young adult) and becoming her own person
He's a lovable goofball! And his daughter loves him! And did you even watch the rest of the movies?
He ends up in jail and broken out again! He makes Jimmy Wu look stupid, not the other way around.
In the old The Tick comic book there was a Punisher knockoff who’s tragic backstory was “My family was killed by civil war reenactors or possibly moved to New Jersey and I’m aching to dispense indiscriminate justice.” And it remains one of my favorite backstories.
Even a chance his family moved to New Jersey
Jesus Christ that's horrible, poor bastard.
Because, their backstories(and lives usually) are tragedies not comedies. It's not supposed to be funny.
Well adjusted people don't dress up as an animal to beat people to a pulp every night. One assumes.
Though Superman lost his planet before he was old enough to remember anything. That's ripe for comedy.
He didn't actually lose his planet, that's just what they told him. The truth is that his dad cheated and Supes is the child. They shot the baby out into space on a rocket so wife would take him back.
Reminds me of the Robot Chicken sketch, where the reason superman was shot into space was not because of his planet going kaboom, but because of a very messy divorce between his parents
"Supervised visit, every other weekend, MY ASS! He's better off on another planet!" *presses button to launch ship*
Judge: "Neither of you are getting custody, off to another planet with this kid"
I can see boy scout Superman just losing it upon learning this.
TOO SOON
A divorce can be a tragedy too, it is one of the ultimate forms of heartbreak after all. You can start tragic by showing what lead to the divorce and the impact it had on the hero, sprinkle bits of comedy related to it here and there, end on a redemption arc where Hero and his ex find happier healthier relationships.
Isn't that part of the backstory of Hancock? Ofc, I could be completely misremembering that film.
No he has amnesia because, in that movie, when super powered people fall in love they lose their powers and he got whacked in the head. And his soulmate decided to move on because falling in love means they'll day or something
Sorta. Their relationship was physically harmful to them, and when Hancock lost his memory, she decided to just cut ties instead of staying in his life.
You'd think she'd at least switch cities though.
I don't know man, you can only do so much tragedy before it loops back around to being a comedy. See: spiderman and Paul
That's also not funny.
They're not really tragedies either, it's pretty much always the protagonist overcoming hardship and prevailing at the end. That's not a tragedy.
People are tired of the woman in the fridge trope because it's lazy uninspired writing that also conveniently allows the story not to write female characters. The first post isn't literal, it's a rhetoric question poking fun at that trope.
You want to know another common backstory trope for Superheroes? Dead Parents. Before Geoff Johns got his hands on him, Barry Allen was a unique case as a hero with both of his parents alive and not in prison.
Also "stuffed in the fridge" doesn't apply to backstory characters, it applies to characters who are harmed in some extreme way, during a story to drive the plot forward because the hero is already an established character by the point the fridging happens. If they died in the backstory they weren't fridged, because the backstory establishes why the hero is a hero.
I wouldn't call Barry Allen unique though. Supes has adopted parents who were alive and active in his life in adulthood in quite a few variations on his story. Pretty sure Nightcrawler's parents are still alive. Beast's too, even with normal jobs far as I know. Didn't one of the Robins also have the fact that his parents were still alive and not in prison as a tension point for at least one arc too? Speaking of the Bat-fam, Batgirl's folks are still amongst the upright - literally and morally - too.
harry du bois
Exactly what I was thinking.
I got that memory scene on my second playthrough. Broke my goddamn heart. I love that game so much.
/uj The sad boring reason is that having a living ex-wife is a Chekhov's Gun, people will think it's one of those shit romcoms where you "win her back" and they'll be confused to see a story that starts with "So this guy is divorced" and ends with "he's still divorced but that's not the point, didn't you watch the whole middle of the movie?"
/rj The climax of the action movie should hinge on the man doing something traditionally feminine like baking a dessert or knitting and someone says, "Where did you learn that?" and he says, "My ex-wife."
Reminds me of the scenes in the first Ant Man movie where the background characters know so much about car washes and underside coatings and later on know a lot about wine because... they are well rounded adults.
They did such a great job with his crew's eclectic skill set being the key to the heist.
That was actually the sequel, which also featured Scott, his ex, and her husband being remarkably well-adjusted. Was honestly really refreshing to see a relationship like that with absolutely zero tension.
The figurines won't win her back
Calling...
Calling. Calling. Still calling.
The What We Do In The Shadows movie did a great job with this.
“But he suffered a humiliating defeat at the hands of his arch nemesis… The Beast… And he’s never been the same.”
And it’s just his ex-girlfriend.
You don’t generally have to avenge a divorce
Also when people learn his wife left him because he cheated on her with the cocktail waitress named Binty they are not going to worship and adore him as much.
Imagine Daredevil beating the shit out of his ex-wife divorce lawyer because divorce is against his catholic beliefs or something.
In the final act: "I have to do this. I have to do this for my wife." and then the epilogue reveals that he just wanted to impress his (ex)wife
Ex-wife: " captain marvelousman did it better "
Ant Man 🐜
My thoughts, and I think they handled it well.
I miss my wife, Tails. I miss her a lot.
I'll be back.
Consider: This, but HE'S the one who divorced HER
I like it best when they both kind of want to get back together but they’re also too pissed at the other to reconcile properly. Not at the point of toxic but more like two teenagers that are just bad at communicating.
"I'm sorry babe it's not you, it's the grind"
I really hate when lazy narratives just throw a dead wife or dead kid in there as cheap motivation without ever making me care about them. Oh boo hoo, your kid is dead, I don't care, I never met them and you're a fictional entity, like don't just throw dead kids at me because you're too lazy to give your character a compelling motivation.
See, John Wick was really smart about this. They start out with the dead wife, but that's a red herring. That's only helping you understand this dude is alone.
THEN they show you the puppy, then they KILL the puppy, OK. Now I'm fucking pissed. Now I'm ready for the murder spree. I am on board with the murder spree.
Think of it this way: the dead wife is an explanation. Nobody expects you to be invested in John Wick's retirement. Nobody wants you to be invested in John Wick's retirement. You're here to watch him kill a ton of people, not to have the fun murder vibe ruined by knowing how John Wick's wife would be sad he'd lost his tenuous grip on peace. The puppy matters.
And that's why the spouse is dead instead of divorced. If they show up more, you can't comfortably ignore them, and if you're not planning around using that, then it takes away from the story you're trying to tell.
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Venom from the movies
Dead spouse is good for tragic stories, divorced spouse is good for comedy stories.
Something else I always wondered is why is a dead wife way more common as a backstory for male heroes than a dead husband is as a backstory for female heroes.
You're more likely to see "dead father" as the equivalent for a female hero. You can replace dead with missing or estranged. From a cynical standpoint, my best guess is that this is because female protagonists are more popular/marketable if they're younger and romantically available (even if those things are only portrayed superficially); the idea of a dead husband spoils both of these ideas from the get go.
Because losing a female is viewed as much greater of a loss than losing a male. Especially when they're adults.
Because women get children instead. Or infertility. Because we're only valued as baby incubators.
Because we're only valued as baby incubators.
That's not true.
You can also cook.
My theory: men are stronger and so are seen as protectors, so losing a wife has all the emotional baggage anyone would have, PLUS the undercurrent of failure because he didn't keep her safe. I think the urge/need to protect is biological, and unevenly applying it to men more than women is patriarchy.
Or it's usually male heroes, to cater to the male-dominated audience of comic books and action movies, and the writers certainly weren't going to to make them gay.
A woman with a dead husband wouldn't be gay.
Because most of the time its hard to absolutely parse who if anyone is at fault in a divorce. Even if one party is clearly more guilty, the fact that it was a split up makes the author at best an unreliable narrator in the worst light.
A deceased wife doesn't pre-load the backstory with that potential baggage. There's no obligation that you hate your wife, or just stopped loving her before she died. That gives a layer of sympathy that lets the audience glom onto our hero, all without the potential baggage of the hero becoming a "Lol, women" allegory.
There is absolutely a story to tell around a character growing past and out of a failed relationship, but it takes a lot more care.
See also: My Super Ex-Girlfriend
For some reason people didn’t like it. I thought it was pretty good.
The only movie that changes genres if you gender swap it.
Sounds like a venture bros skit.
That’s Dr. Richard Incredible’s arc. He’s a terrible husband and a worse father, but when his wife leaves him he totally spirals.
In the Doom Patrol television series, Mr. Nobody, a supervillain with almost unlimited power, gets his powers, loses his humanity and takes on his supervillian name Mr.Nobody, all because his girlfriend at the time dumps him and tells him he's a nobody and will never be more than a nobody.
Eddie Brock from the Venom movie
its because a divorced man is perceived as having something wrong with them, while a widowed man is not.
Edit: it's just a way of having man who you can say has desirable qualities without outright saying it, they are valuable enough that someone has married them but without negative qualities that would make someone leave them. This also leaves the guy open for romantic chemistry with surprisingly every attractive female cast member where if he was still married it would be not socially acceptable.
This also applies to single men. Society perceives them as having done something wrong to ruin the relationship.
Reminds me of a character I made once of a knight that hated goblins because "goblins took his family". His wife left him for a goblin and took their son with her.
Disco Elysium
Imagine if they have kids together.
Incredibles AU?
Ant man
Isn't that AntMan?
Endeavor (if things go well and Rei doesn't take him back please Horikoshi don't make them be together at the end)
Happily married wives are for tragedies, divorced wives are for comedies, and dead wives are for hero stories.
You laugh, but I literally made a D&D character whose whole thing was this. Barbarian-Paladin of Redemption, self exiled seeking to atone himself and maybe have his partner forgive him someday, and eventually coming to terms with the fact he might never get forgiven and accepting it.
Die Hard
I'm actually playing a character in a Pathfinder game right now that's exactly this! She took my daughter too, so extra heartbreak for ol' Gerry Gatlin.
"I lost her to Cain, that bastard"
"Who's Cain? A supervillain?"
"No, a male stripper from Vegas. I knew I should have bought her more flowers."
Scott Pilgrim
Leonard McCoy.
IIRC there is an alternate reality version of Batman where Bruce was the one who got killed, and Martha goes insane in her grief and becomes the Joker and Thomas becomes Batman to try and stop her.
"Jan, I love you. Please come back. I realize that I'm not blameless here. Please."
"Re-elect Jan Cooper, Mayor of Whoreville."
Disco Elysium?
I would SO love to see a story arc where a superhero divorce is a plot point. Power Man is in mid-battle and his phone rings. It’s his wife (separated) who is mad about custody of the dog. The drama could be that a villain discovers their secret identities because of their public arguments so they have to team up. Then they have to figure out how to silence the villain.
This but Silent Hill 2 is even more hilarious
Kingston Brown from Unsleeping City.
It only works in Antman because of Luis.
That's kind of like Kick-Ass the comic version. Unlike the movie, in the comics Big Daddy's wife (Hit Girls mom) is actually alive and he made up the story or her being murdered by the mob because he's completely delusional.
These days, most movies and shows about heroes are very careful to include the message that women can just as easily be heroic as men. Maybe you like that or maybe you think that Hollywood sometimes puts it on a bit too thick, but regardless of what you think, that's how it is. However, that hasn't always been the case. Go back even just a decade or two, and women were either rarely an action hero or there was just one throw away action girl. The further back you go, the more sparse it gets in relation to women action heroes.
Now, that's not to say that all of these action hero stories had no influence from women. The influence came in the form of the man's inspiration. This woman, his wife and kids, THIS is what he's fighting for! When he seems to be losing the fight and remembers his family and what's at stake here, he pushes forward. Even just the girlfriend was usually inspiration enough, but generally with the expectation that she would soon become Mrs. Hero.
So creating a male protagonist whose love interest has died creates an interesting dynamic for this type of story. His inspiration is dead. Is he heroic enough to keep fighting even when that little piece of Earth he was fighting for is gone? It is a compelling dynamic if you are coming from the traditional paradigm of action heroes.
But the problem is when old media collides with the new. That dynamic has been established as part of the tragic backstory, but in the new dynamic where women are more than just the inspiration, it starts to feel a bit clunky. We want something new and different.
I'm not here to say what's right and wrong for movie makers and other media producers to do. I certainly think that it is good to have some women action characters out there, but is there any place for the traditional paradigms to coexist, or should we let them die and embrace the new? I don't know for sure, but I'm just calling it like I see it.
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
I know, I know...
Doxing the superhero always ends up going so well.
They took my wife in the divorce
And the phrase the person uses when discussing is "They aren't around anymore" sort of not saying they are dead directly but everyone assumes that...Would lead to funny lines in the film
They did something like that in Bloodshot. Vin Diesel is brought back from the dead with nanotech and is now a super soldier, out to avenge his wife and himself. The plot twist is that .
Scott Lang.
He becomes Ant Man because he can't get a job as an ex-con. He genuinely wants to be a good father and an honest man, but even Baskin Robins fires him because he did time.
He basically becomes a superhero because they're the only ones hiring.
I have a backstory ready for whenever I'll need to roll a stealth rogue or bard skillmonkey.
They're an elf who struck big on a heist in the first couple hundred years of their life, and they ended up retiring with the woman who helped them pulled it off. Fell in love, opened up a shop, started raking in dough, had enough after a few years to upsize.
Then he got her pregnant and they had a couple kids and he was completely unprepared for parenthood. Had some bad spending habits as part of his coping mechanism, ended up putting the new larger shop in debt and in trouble with both the city officials and some shady crime lords.
They end up closing down the shop and moving back to his parents village, and his wife berates him and tells him to go fix all the trouble.
So what does he do? The only skill he had before fumbling the family merchant life. ADVENTURING.
So now he's looting dungeons and taking on quests so he can earn enough gold to pay off his debts, get out of trouble, and maybe convince his wife and kids to forgive him, lmfao. And also that can serve as a reason he's back at level 1, because he hasn't done the adventuring life in so long.
Kinda sorta like that one minor subplot in Armageddon?
She isn’t dead , he “ lost “ her ..Like at the grocery store … somewhere between the produce and the international section …he turned around for just a second ….
This is just the plot to Super (2010). Rainn Wilson is hilarious in that
Once DM’d a Pathfinder party with a divorced Champion who was using adventuring as a way to duck alimony payments. Good character.
I mean, isn’t this essentially ant man?
For some reason I find divorce to be more sad than death. Also death leaves you with nothing so it’s more pathos. Divorce leaves you with alimony which is annoying but less emotional. The emotional part of divorce is if it’s handled poorly with kids involved. That’s when it gets really depressing.
Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaateeeed
Immortal Hulk
Well yeah but what divorced backstory is the funniest among them?
1. I have to be a hero so you will take me back.
2. I have to be a hero to gain back my self esteem.
3. I have to be a hero to spite you.
4. I have nothing left to loose so I can take the risks.
5. We were heroes before together and I just kinda kept at it.